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قدیمی 03-21-2013, 11:59 PM   #15
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تونی نادال عموی رافائل نادال و مربی او میگوید نواک جوکوویچ بهترین بازیکن حال حاضر جهان است. همچنین او میگوید نواک جوکوویچ میتونه از شانسهای اصلی فتح رولند گارروس باشه. همچنین اندی ماری و دیوید فرر و دلپوترو هم میتونن شانسی برای فتح این گرند اسلم داشته باشن. ولی راجر فدرر هیچ شانسی برای بردن رولند گارروس نداره. این گزیده ای از صحبتهاب تونی نادال بود. این هم متن انگلیسی این صحبتها.

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Toni Nadal: Novak is the best in the world
Rafael Nadal's uncle, Toni said that during the domination of his nephew and Roger Federer in the past and is now on the scene dominance of Novak Djokovic
Toni Nadal is added and gives Djokovic biggest among the favorites to triumph at Roland Garros, the only Grand Slam that has not won, but side by side with him and lined up on the slag is not exactly the brightest Andy Murray.
As it believes that Rafael Nadal, who is sevenfold champion of the prestigious tournament in Paris, not a "clear favorite", so I believe that Roger Federer is not among the names of which can be expected triumph.
"The players that I see as most likely Grand Slam champions are all familiar, it is the first four in the ATP rankings. If Rafael is healthy and he will be among them. But then I think that Del Potro is one of the favorites. Too think that it is clear that Ferrer has a chance to win a Grand Slam tournament. David plays well everywhere, although it is true that he has never won a Grand Slam tournament, and she was 30. however, if we take into account the game he is certainly capable of it, "said Toni Nadal site for the "Tennis".
من فکر می کنم مشکل اصلی از ترجمه ی این دوستمون هست که علاقه ی وافرشون به نواک و تنفر بیش از حدشون از فدرر باعث شده که یه بخش هاییش رو هر چی خودشون خواستن ترجمه کنن. بنده به عنوان یه مترجم رسمی به این ترجمه از 20، صفر هم نمی دم چون خیلی ایرادهای بزرگی توش داره که من هم حوصله ندارم همه اش رو بگم، اما اون بخش های اصلیش که باعث سوءتفاهم شده رو می گم تا بقیه ی دوستان بدونن که عمو تونی اونقدرا هم ساده نیست که بگه فدرر هیچ شانسی نداره.
اول از همه اینکه متن اصلی که دوستمون فقط یه بخش هاییش رو آوردن رو می شه اینجا پیدا کرد:

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/.../#.UUttZhdkOSo

Toni Nadal, the uncle and coach of Rafael Nadal, says that in his opinion, Roger Federer was not seriously injured when he lost to his nephew in straight sets in the quarterfinals of Indian Wells last week. Federer had a back injury.

“Federer has beaten us more than once with Rafael having significantly more pain than [Roger] was in at Indian Wells,” Toni Nadal told Puntodebreak.com. “I'm clear that the situation of Federer [at Indian Wells] was no worse than that Rafael has had on many other occasions.”

Toni Nadal also named his favorites for Roland Garros. He said seven-time Roland Garros champion Rafa is not the clear favorite, but just one of a group of favorites that includes Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Juan Martin del Potro, and David Ferrer. He added that he does not see former champion Federer as a favorite.

Toni Nadal also said that the Federer-Nadal era of dominance is over and that the world’s best player is now No. 1 Novak Djokovic.

“It is likely that in the coming years we will see more players with chances to win,” he said. “The players I see with chances to fight for the Grand Slam tournaments are those we all know: The top four in the rankings. If Rafael is healthy he is one of them. But then I also think that del Potro will be there for sure. I also think it’s clear that Ferrer has a chance of winning a Grand Slam. David plays well everywhere, although it is true that he has never done it and being 30 years old can be a handicap, but game-wise he is more than capable. I would choose those six because I see others a little below them.”Toni Nadal, the uncle and coach of Rafael Nadal, says that in his opinion, Roger Federer was not seriously injured when he lost to his nephew in straight sets in the quarterfinals of Indian Wells last week. Federer had a back injury.

“Federer has beaten us more than once with Rafael having significantly more pain than [Roger] was in at Indian Wells,” Toni Nadal told Puntodebreak.com. “I'm clear that the situation of Federer [at Indian Wells] was no worse than that Rafael has had on many other occasions.”

Toni Nadal also named his favorites for Roland Garros. He said seven-time Roland Garros champion Rafa is not the clear favorite, but just one of a group of favorites that includes Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Juan Martin del Potro, and David Ferrer. He added that he does not see former champion Federer as a favorite.

Toni Nadal also said that the Federer-Nadal era of dominance is over and that the world’s best player is now No. 1 Novak Djokovic.

“It is likely that in the coming years we will see more players with chances to win,” he said. “The players I see with chances to fight for the Grand Slam tournaments are those we all know: The top four in the rankings. If Rafael is healthy he is one of them. But then I also think that del Potro will be there for sure. I also think it’s clear that Ferrer has a chance of winning a Grand Slam. David plays well everywhere, although it is true that he has never done it and being 30 years old can be a handicap, but game-wise he is more than capable. I would choose those six because I see others a little below them.”

اول از همه اون کلمه ی favorite هستش که یعنی محبوب، و ترجمه ی اون قسمت می شه:

عمو تونی بازیکنان محبوبش برای رولان گاروس رو نام برد و گفت قهرمان هفت دوره رولان گاروس رافا، [بازیکن] محبوب اصلیش نیست و او فقط یکی از جمع بازیکنان محبوب اوست که عبارتند از: نواک جوکوویچ، اندی موری، خوان مارتین دل پوترو و داوید فرر. او اضافه کرد که قهرمان سابق راجر فدرر را یکی از بازیکنان محبوبش به حساب نمی آورد.

دوم هم اینکه این دوستمون یه بخش آخر صحبت های عمو تونی رو به سبک و سیاق سانسورچی ها حذف کردن تا صحبت هاش در مورد فرر جور دیگه ای تفسیر بشه. عموتونی در آخر صحبت هاش می گه:

این احتمال وجود داره که در سال های آینده بازیکن های بیشتری رو ببینیم که شانس بردن [گرند اسلم] داشته باشن. بازیکن هایی که از دید من شانس رقابت برای گرند اسلم ها رو دارن اونایی هست که ما همه می شناسیمشون: چهار نفر اول رده بندی جهانی. اگر رافائل سالم باشد می تواند در بین آنها باشد. اما من فکر می کنم که مطمئناً دل پوترو هم بین آن ها خواهد بود. من همچنین فکر می کنم این کاملاً واضح است که فرر شانس بردن یک گرند اسلم را دارد. داوید همه جا خوب بازی می کند. با وجود این واقعیت که او قبلاً موفق به انجام این کار [بردن گرند اسلم] نشده است و 30 ساله بودن او هم می تواند مانعی به حساب بیاید، اما او از لحاظ بازی کاملاً این توانایی را دارد. من این شش نفر را انتخاب می کنم چون بقیه را پایین تر از آنها می بینم.

این هم ترجمه ی دقیق اون بخش هایی که بحث انگیز بودن. می شه با حرف های عموتونی موافق یا مخالف بود، اما نباید به ترجمه های غلطی که از این حرف ها می شه اعتماد کرد. طفلکی جوکوویچ که هوادار اصلیش توی ایران زبانش اونقدر خوب نیست که بتونه یه متن رو درست ترجمه کنه.
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